if she had that information, then hillary clinton had that information, and if hillary clinton had that information, richard williamson, president obama had that information, and that's why americans are burned up. >> well, we know that the day after the tragic events in benghazi that a senior state department official briefed some people on capitol hill, referred to it as a terrorist attack so clearly the administration, the gang that can't shoot straight, can't get its stories straight, and this lack of transparency, this lack of candor has two terrible aspects. one, it is disrespectful to the four brave americans who had served our country well, who perished in this terrorist attack, and, two, it's a failed effort to justify a war on terror through target the killings that president obama wants to claim has been successful when clearly it hasn't. >> but here's the thing. >> the al qaeda -- >> this is -- richard, i've got to get this in, rich. look, go back in time a few weeks. >> sure. >> there was a ceremony at the dover air force base, okay? a ceremony at the dover air force base.